欧美国家正就碳排放问题对中国紧追不舍，要知道，排放权就是发展权，中国不可能按照欧美的环保思路掐断自己的发展生命线，而且提到碳排放的问题的话，美国应该是排在首位的，而近期“环保少女”却直接跳过了这个问题不提，对日本的偷排核废水也闭口不谈，却对中国的筷子横加指责。揪住不放，“环保少女”的这个行为，让很多人开始纷纷质疑她的真正动机，究竟是打着环保的名义为自己谋私利，还是真正地为大自然的环境着想。在美版知乎Quora上，美国 友提问道：怎样看待环保女孩针对中国兴师问罪？她应该获得诺贝尔奖吗？这个荒谬的问题引起各国 友的热议，我们来看看他们的观点。
问题：格蕾塔应该向中国就环保和气候问题兴师问罪吗？
问题：环保女孩应该获得诺贝尔奖吗？
问题：德国专家凯文?理查德的回答
She is a blind follower brainwashed by white leftists and has no education. She made strong demands on the future environmental problems of the world, but lacked the basic knowledge of the consequences of such demands. What’s worse, she also advocated other young people to strike classes and take to the streets like her.
她是一个被白左分子洗脑的盲从者，而且没怎么上过学。她对这个世界未来的环境问题提出了强烈的要求，但缺乏了解这种要求之严重后果的基本知识，更糟糕的是，她还提倡其他年轻人像她一样罢课然后走上街头。
First of all, with a brief disclaimer, I fully support getting rid of the current oil led economy. After all, new energy is the future, but I firmly believe that this transformation should be gradual and should not have a significant impact on our economy, technology and living standards.
首先，简短的免责声明，我完全支持摆脱目前石油主导的经济，毕竟，新能源才是未来，但我坚信，这种转变应该是渐进的，不应该对我们的经济、技术和生活水平造成重大影响。
Greta, like her peers in Europe and the United States, benefits from the progress of modern technology and enjoys an unprecedented standard of living, which is based on uninterrupted energy supply. She lived in a comfortable mansion from birth, built with modern building materials and heated with modern technology, all of which require uninterrupted energy flow.
格蕾塔，就像她在欧洲和美国的同龄人一样，受益于于现代技术的进步，享有前所未有的生活水平，而现代技术的进步又是基于不间断的能源供应。她从出生就住在一个舒适的豪宅里，用现代建筑材料建造，用现代技术取暖，所有这些都需要不间断的能量流动。
She likes to boast a balanced vegetarian diet, which requires the uninterrupted transportation of food around the world through specially designed fuel freighters with refrigerators (you can’t take bananas to Sweden on a sailboat).
她喜欢标榜均衡的素食主义饮食，这要求通过专门设计的燃油货运船在全球范围内不间断地运输食物，船上装有冷柜（你不能用帆船把香蕉带到瑞典）。
石油工业
She uses medical products produced by evil pharmaceutical companies whose factories are all operated by electricity. She likes to travel around the world by train or sailboat, and these are in factories and factories that use the energy and materials developed by fossil fuels to maintain production. She didn’t know that the sails on the yacht she took to New York were made of Kevlar, a synthetic material extracted from oil by thermal and high-energy chemical processes.
她使用着由邪恶的制药公司生产的医疗产品，这些公司的工厂全部都靠电力运营。她喜欢坐火车或帆船环游世界，而这些都是在工厂和工厂正是使用化石燃料开发的能源和材料维持生产的。她应该不知道把她带到纽约的游艇上的帆是由凯夫拉制成的吧，凯夫拉是一种合成材料，用热和高能量的化学工艺从石油中提炼出来的。
However, Greta ignored the science and education that brought her these benefits. She called for policies, such as a total ban on oil exploitation and the cancellation of the whole industrial chain of the oil industry. If something happens to her, she will have to move into a wooden house in Sweden; She must work hard in the field from morning to night; Due to the lack of modern medicine, she will soon feel unwell, and she can never maintain a vegetarian lifestyle. Therefore, this will take us to the underdeveloped past. Of course, it will not be the 18th century – after all, at that time, the various steam engines began to operate in the 18th century – but to some time in the middle ages.
然而，葛丽塔无视给她带来这些好处的科学和教育。她要求制定政策，比如全面禁止石油开采，取消石油工业的全产业链。如果奇迹发生，她的理想得到了实现，她将不得不搬进瑞典某个地方的木屋；她必须从早到晚在田里辛勤劳动；由于缺乏现代药物，她很快就会感到不适，而且她决不能维持吃素生活方式。因此，这会把我们带到不发达的过去，当然不会是十八世纪——毕竟，在那时各种蒸汽机在十八世纪就已经开始运转了——而是带到了中世纪的某个时期。
Why did she ask? Because she is uneducated and ignorant. Because she doesn’t understand what she’s talking about. Because she does not advocate science and knowledge, but encourages children all over the world to skip it, take to the streets and strike for environmental protection.
她为什么这么要求？因为她没有受过教育，无知。因为她不明白自己在说什么。因为她不提倡科学和知识，而是鼓励全世界的孩子跳过它，走上街头，为环保罢课。
Therefore, we have a large group of young environmentalists who demand an immediate transition to 100% renewable energy, but even lack in-depth understanding of power generation or grid operation (or even why the serious imbalance between power generation and power consumption can cause catastrophic damage to power plants in a few minutes).
因此，我们有一大群年轻的环保主义者，他们要求立即过渡到100%可再生能源，但对发电或电 运行甚至缺乏深入了解（甚至不知道为什么发电和电力消耗之间的严重不平衡会在几分钟内对发电厂造成灾难性破坏）。
Those who do not even have the basic knowledge of the industrial processes on which they depend for survival (such as fertilizer production or transportation, not to mention more complex things such as metallurgy, mechanical or chemical engineering), and those who do not know the consequences of their requirements, what qualifications do they have to tell the public.
那些连自己赖以生存的工业过程的基本知识都没有的人（比如化肥生产或运输，更不用说冶金、机械或化学工程等更复杂的事情了），那些不知道自己的要求会带来什么后果的人，有什么资格在大众面前指手画脚。
People like Greta and her followers seriously underestimate the importance of a healthy economy to their lives and well-being because they don’t know what “economic collapse” means. They have not personally experienced this crisis. They do not understand that if their country decides to go to industrialization, other countries will be eager to restore their status in the world economy and then kick their country into the abyss.
像葛丽塔和她的追随者这样的人严重低估了健康经济对他们生活和福祉的重要性，因为他们不知道“经济崩溃”是什么意思。他们没有亲身经历过这种危机，他们不明白，如果他们的国家决定去工业化，其他国家会急于在世界经济中恢复自己的地位，然后把他们的国家踹入深渊。
They do not understand that the loss of industry will lead to mass unemployment, which will lead to the poverty of the working people; Malnutrition and millions of premature deaths; The suicide epidemic, the rampant growth of corruption and crime, and the economic recession can bring as much death and suffering as major disasters.
他们不明白产业的流失会导致大规模失业，进而导致劳动人民的贫困；营养不良和数百万人过早死亡；自杀流行病，以及腐败和犯罪的猖獗增长，经济衰退可能带来的死亡和痛苦与重大灾难一样多。
西方国家失业造成社会动荡
贫困的儿童
When the Soviet Union collapsed and the economy fell into a spiral decline, Ukraine’s population fell from 52 million to 42 million in less than 15 years. Due to the economic recession, Ukraine lost more people than the whole world War II, and this loss continues. In contrast, the worrying Chernobyl disaster is only a small episode and is not even worth mentioning.
当苏联解体，经济陷入螺旋式下降时，乌克兰的人口在不到15年的时间里从5200万下降到4200万。由于经济衰退，乌克兰损失的人口超过了整个二战，而且这种损失还在继续。与此相比，令人担忧的切尔诺贝利灾难只是一个小小的插曲，甚至不值得提及。
Greta is just a teenage girl. Her mental state is not suitable for the stage she is pushed onto, and then reads the prepared script like a string puppet. She was portrayed as a “dare to challenge authority and tradition”, while the manipulators behind her left her at the feet of critics. If you openly oppose her, her style or her remarks, you will be scolded by environmentalists as “misogyny” or “anti Asperger disease”, which is both sad and pathetic.
格蕾塔只是一个十几岁的女孩，她的精神状态不适合她被推上的舞台，然后像提线木偶一样念着事先准备好的剧本。她被塑造成一个“敢于挑战权威和传统”的角色，而她背后的操纵者却把她抛在了批评者的脚下。如果你公开反对她、她的风格或她的言论，就会被环保主义者大骂为‘厌女症’或‘抗阿斯伯格症’，这既可悲又可怜。
In short, people hate Greta because she is an ignorant and spoiled child who always boasts of her lack of knowledge. A child who makes unreasonable demands, if implemented, will also cause millions of people to suffer.
简言之，人们讨厌葛丽塔，因为她是一个不知世故、被宠坏的孩子，人们总是夸耀她却回避她缺乏知识的事实。一个无知孩子所提出的不合理要求，如果得到实施，也会使数百万人受苦受难。
印度 友帕拉哈尔的回答
My hometown salumarda timmaka in Karnataka, India, is a little girl from a remote countryside. She has planted about 385 banyan trees on a 4-kilometer long land.
我的家乡印度卡纳塔克邦的Salumarda Timmaka，一个来自偏远农村的小女孩，她在4公里长的土地上种植了大约385棵榕树。
She was not born into a wealthy and notorious privileged family. She did not have the advantages and background of a first-class university. She had never even heard of the terms climate change, ozone hole and global warming. However, for many years, she has been working on hillsides and fields and planting these trees without anyone’s attention.
她没能出生在一个富裕而又臭名昭著的特权家庭里，她没有一流大学的优势和背景，她甚至从未听说过气候变化、臭氧空洞、全球变暖这些名词，然而，多年来，她一直在山坡、田地上工作，在无人问津的情况下种植着这些树。
Thankfully, the current government recently recognized her efforts and awarded her the Padma Shri medal, one of India’s highest awards.
谢天谢地，现任政府最近认可了她的努力，并授予她Padma Shri奖章，这是印度最高奖项之一。
Take another look at our environmental protection girl. The reputation of getting something for nothing and attracting attention will only annoy the public, which of course annoys me.
再看看我们的环保女孩，不劳而获、哗众取宠的名声只会激怒大众，这当然让我恼火。
Western politicians pretend to care about children’s ideas. When children agree with their views, they think they can portray opponents as despicable bullies who disagree with children, or their views as something that even the children under their control don’t understand. It’s mean and stupid.
西方那些政客假装关心孩子们的想法，当孩子们同意他们的观点时，他们认为他们可以把反对者描绘成与孩子意见不同的卑鄙欺凌者，或者把他们的观点描绘成连这些掌控下的孩子都不懂的东西，这真是卑鄙又愚蠢。
西方政客辩论
Greta Thunberg is the embodiment and tool of trying to suppress objections and prevent rational discourse with emotional appeal.
格蕾塔·桑伯格（GretaThunberg）就是那种试图压制反对意见、阻止带有情感诉求的理性话语的尝试的化身和工具。
Most of the time, Western politicians always blindly appeal to support the children’s remarks. They try to bypass the rational discussion, unconditionally support the remarks of these toys, or push the children to the podium as your spokesman, which makes me feel that no matter what your reason is, it is immoral and unsupported by evidence.
大多数时候，西方政客们总是盲目呼吁支持这些孩子们的言论，他们试图绕过理性的讨论，无条件地支持这些玩具的言论或者把孩子推到讲台上做你的代言人，这让我觉得无论你的理由是什么，都是不道德的，没有证据支持。
Greta was still a “child” when she was pushed into the spotlight. Of course, it is not only biological, but also legal and social. Frankly speaking, 16-year-old young people do not have a well-considered view and a sound outlook on life and values.
当“环保女孩”葛丽塔被推到聚光灯下时，她还是一个“孩子”。当然，不只是生物学上的，而且是法律上和社会上的。坦率地说，16岁的年轻人并不具备考虑周全的观点和健全的人生观和价值观。
Greta is not. She has a fairly rich family background and comes from a small European country with high welfare. Everyone is soaked in a honeypot. They are full of idealism, which makes their vision quite narrow. Frankly, I am tired of being condescended and bossed by arrogant Europeans, let alone a 16-year-old child. In her speech, she claimed that we poor countries “stole her childhood”, That’s ridiculous.
葛丽塔不是，她有一个相当富裕的家庭背景，来自一个高福利的欧洲小国，每个人都被泡在蜜罐里，他们充满了理想主义，这让他们的视野相当狭隘，坦率地说，我已经厌倦了被傲慢的欧洲人屈尊俯就，颐指气使，更不用说一个16岁的孩子了，她在演讲中声称我们这些穷国“偷走了她的童年”，真是荒谬。
北欧福利国家
Greta’s views are neither novel nor interesting. She is not a great speaker. She is always complaining, but she is not good at providing practical solutions. She complains like a spoiled child. Those who support her do so not because she is a great model of virtue, but because they try to fight the opposition through emotional manipulation, not because Greta’s view is correct and feasible. In short:
葛丽塔的观点既不新颖也不有趣，她不是一个伟大的演说家，她总是抱怨，却又不善于提供实际可行的解决方案，就像一个被宠坏的孩子一样发牢骚。而那些支持她的人这样做并不是因为她是一个伟大的美德典范，而是因为他们试图通过情绪操纵来打击反对派，而不是因为葛丽塔的观点是正确的，可行的。总之：
She is always in a bad temper. It’s annoying to listen to a hysterical child’s speech, because at the age of 16, she hasn’t brought any value to society. Her understanding of complex problems is very limited, and a little humility is good for Greta.
她总是气急败坏，听一个歇斯底里的孩子演讲很烦人，因为在她16岁的时候，她还没给社会带来一丝价值，她对复杂问题的理解非常有限，稍微谦逊一点对葛丽塔很有好处。
Ingratitude is disgusting. She relentlessly denounced the system and compatriots that provided her with the childhood life that most children in third world countries can only dream of, which weakened her credibility. She will only argue for the sake of argument.
忘恩负义令人生厌。她毫不留情地斥责为她提供了绝大多数第三世界国家孩子只能梦想的童年生活的体制和同胞，这削弱了她的可信度，她只会为了争辩而争辩。
Useless complaints are annoying. Greta represents a group of emerging bourgeoisie, who believe that “raising awareness” is more important than actual production. They can earn both fame and fortune by making angry speeches everywhere. They profit from the existence of the problem, so they don’t really want to solve the problem. People instinctively respect the doer rather than the complainer. That’s why.
无益的抱怨很烦人。葛丽塔代表了一批新兴的资产阶级，他们认为“提高认识”比实际生产更重要。他们只靠到处愤怒地演讲就能名利双收，他们因为问题的存在而获利，所以他们不是真心要解决这个问题，人们本能地尊重实干家，而不是抱怨者，就是这个原因。
美国 友蕾娜?斯图尔特的回答，她现在居住在北京
The Nobel Peace Prize, which is closely related to politics, is very suitable for her, but when she knows nothing about China’s achievements in environmental protection, she makes arbitrary accusations, making her a laughing stock and clown.
诺贝尔和平奖这种和政治正确紧密相关的奖项倒是很适合她，但她对中国在环保方面的成就一无所知的情况下就横加指责，让她成为了世界的笑柄和小丑。
The anti Chinese media are all pervasive in response to the so-called Chinese threat and have fabricated many lies. They exaggerate that “China consumes about 28% of the world’s meat and half of the world’s pork”, and the greenhouse gases produced by animal husbandry account for 20% to 50% of all man-made greenhouse gases. “If China’s animal husbandry is halved, it may reduce nitrogen dioxide emissions by 1 billion tons.”
反华媒体针对所谓的中国威胁可谓无孔不入，编造了诸多谎言，他们渲染称“中国消费了全球约28%的肉类以及一半的猪肉”，畜牧业产生的温室气体占所有人为温室气体的20%至50%，“若将中国畜牧业减半，可能让二氧化氮排放量减少10亿吨。”
中国的防护林工程
In 1981, China’s forest area was 1.729 billion mu, the volume of living trees was 10.26 billion cubic meters, and the forest coverage rate was 12%. After years of unremitting efforts, China’s forest area has reached 2.62 billion mu, the volume of living trees has reached 13.618 billion cubic meters, and the forest coverage rate has increased to 23%. China’s newly increased forest area has exceeded that of all other countries in the world combined.
1981年，中国森林面积为17.29亿亩，活立木蓄积量为102.6亿立方米，森林覆盖率为12%。经过多年的不懈奋斗，中国森林面积已达到26.2亿亩，活立木蓄积量达到136.18亿立方米，森林覆盖率提高到23%。中国森林的新增面积已经超过世界上所有其他国家的总和。
Last year, NASA satellites found that the earth was greener than it had been 20 years ago. Moreover, it was China and India that led the action to heal the earth. “The increase of green area in China is mainly due to the increase of forest area (42% of forests and 32% of crops); while the increase of green area in India is mostly due to the increase of crop area (4.4% of forests and 82% of crops).”
植树的农民
In terms of afforestation achievements, the most well-known thing in China is to turn a “Mu Us Desert” formed in the Tang Dynasty and existing for thousands of years into a “Mu Us forest”.
中国在植树造林成果上，最家喻户晓的莫过于把一片形成于唐代、存在了上千年的“毛乌素沙漠”变成了“毛乌素森林”。
There are countless great projects in China. The shelterbelt project is special. They have no fixed location. They can be seen everywhere from the depths of the northwest desert to the coast of the southeast sea, like towering giants guarding the Chinese people’s homeland.
中国大地上有着无数伟大的工程，防护林工程较为特殊，它们没有固定地点，从西北大漠深处到东南大海之滨，处处可见它们的身影，像巍峨的巨人守护着中国人的家园。
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